wasguru，你说百科全书上"heat"的定义不能用。我查到一篇文献，

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送交者: james_hussein_bond 于 2011-03-21, 15:59:28:

http://iopscience.iop.org/0031-9120/7/1/309/pdf/0031-9120_7_1_309.pdf

引用：

Heat is defined as energy transmitted by means of a temperature difference only.

你认为这个定义和百科全书上的说法如何不同？

另外这篇文章也提到了我前面讲错的部分：

引用：

Very often heat is said to be the kinetic energy of the molecules of a body. Indeed this is by far the most common explicit definition given in those current elementary texbooks known to the write.

嘿嘿，大多数低等教科书都错得和我一样。不知新的教科书改过来了没有。

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没有量子的概念定义热都是错误的 (无内容) - blobfish (0 bytes) 2011-03-21, 16:39:49 (565713)
- 用量子怎么定义？ (无内容) - whoami (0 bytes) 2011-03-21, 16:47:45 (565723)
  - at a T, the number of particals can be estimated from the partitial function - blobfish (50 bytes) 2011-03-21, 16:49:21 (565726)
    - 你这是哪里的定义？ - whoami (82 bytes) 2011-03-21, 17:09:31 (565767)
      - Transmited heat is just one kind of energy transfers - blobfish (136 bytes) 2011-03-21, 17:17:45 (565777)
        
        这里说的是heat，不是总能量什么的。 - whoami (44 bytes) 2011-03-21, 17:21:16 (565778)
        
        from quantum one, you can get the heat you want (无内容) - blobfish (0 bytes) 2011-03-21, 17:22:18 (565781)
        
        So,你认为heat就是动能？ (无内容) - whoami (0 bytes) 2011-03-21, 17:28:21 (565790)
        
        not kinetic energy - blobfish (122 bytes) 2011-03-21, 17:30:14 (565792)
        
        这里说的是定义不是怎么计算 - whoami (90 bytes) 2011-03-21, 17:51:06 (565804)
        
        see here - blobfish (115 bytes) 2011-03-21, 17:54:22 (565805)
        
        Sorry. Heat is not a state quantity, nor a difference of state quantities (无内容) - wasguru (0 bytes) 2011-03-21, 17:45:14 (565800)
        
        classical or not, that's a simple fact. - wasguru (47 bytes) 2011-03-21, 18:49:41 (565829)
        
        that's just classical picture (无内容) - blobfish (0 bytes) 2011-03-21, 18:36:00 (565825)
        
        Thermodynamics 101 - wasguru (115 bytes) 2011-03-21, 18:34:39 (565824)
        
        you don't have your own heat - blobfish (129 bytes) 2011-03-21, 18:21:39 (565817)
        
        Heat is heat. I don't have my own heat. (无内容) - wasguru (0 bytes) 2011-03-21, 18:11:43 (565815)
        
        I just don't know your heat (无内容) - blobfish (0 bytes) 2011-03-21, 18:09:13 (565814)
        
        So you don't know what heat is? (无内容) - wasguru (0 bytes) 2011-03-21, 18:07:53 (565812)
        
        what on earth your misterious heat? (无内容) - blobfish (0 bytes) 2011-03-21, 17:58:14 (565809)
        
        Again, heat is not a change in state quantity. (无内容) - wasguru (0 bytes) 2011-03-21, 17:56:54 (565808)
        
        You did not get my point: - blobfish (228 bytes) 2011-03-21, 17:48:28 (565801)
        
        I can show you how - blobfish (106 bytes) 2011-03-21, 17:34:23 (565795)
        
        because energy conservation still hold (无内容) - blobfish (0 bytes) 2011-03-21, 17:23:16 (565785)
- at least starts from Bolztmann distribution and partitial function (无内容) - blobfish (0 bytes) 2011-03-21, 16:47:14 (565722)
一份物理教育杂志上的一篇烂文章能证明什么？ - wasguru (209 bytes) 2011-03-21, 16:25:31 (565700)
- 只不过指出大家都犯同样的错误罢了。至于你出的题，不说明什么。 - james_hussein_bond (126 bytes) 2011-03-21, 16:41:13 (565714)
  - 你到底学没学过哪怕是普通物理里的热力学？ - wasguru (171 bytes) 2011-03-21, 16:54:27 (565734)
    - 我不懂热力学，但是至少知道物理里＂热＂是有严格定义的。 - james_hussein_bond (38 bytes) 2011-03-21, 18:26:30 (565819)
      - 物理里的“热”难道不是热力学的“热”？ - wasguru (210 bytes) 2011-03-21, 18:48:06 (565828)
      - you are too old learn a new subject in 3 days? (无内容) - blobfish (0 bytes) 2011-03-21, 18:33:42 (565823)

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